Kelly Clarkson headed to the land down under recently to perform at Sydney’s Star Casino. While she was there, the new mom and “Heartbeat” singer hopped into a car with Australia’s morning radio duo Kyle Sandilands and Jackie O, of the Kyle & Jackie O Show. They cruised around town in what appears to have been a very tiny car. Clarkson spent most of the time belting out tunes — but she also chatted with Jackie about what makes a man attractive in her eyes. Turns out, Clarkson digs a dude with confidence. She’s got it in spades herself, so this makes a ton of sense — we wouldn’t have pegged her for being into wallflowers. The question came up while trio was listening to (okay, mostly singing to) “Drunk In Love” in the car. Clarkson confessed that it took her forever to figure out what the lyrics actually meant; Kelly O followed up by asking Clarkson if she thinks Jay Z is hot. “Any kind of confident dude is hot, right?” the singer replied. Kelly O asked if that includes Kanye West, and Clarkson got a little tripped up. Kanye might be a little too confident for Clarkson, as it turned out. The rest of the ride featured Kelly and Kyle driving around singing; at one point, Clarkson opened up the door to share the moment with pedestrian passersby. It’s official: If we were going to get stuck in traffic, this is the star we’d want to do it with.