Connie: "Heavy episode this week, guys. I cried, actually."
Nathan: "You cried?!"
Connie: "I may be a sap, but there's something about relationships falling apart that really gets to me."
Annie: "So basically, this entire episode."
Connie: "Yes! Specifically Jessa's, Shoshanna's, and Marnie's stories. All three of them went through some pretty traumatic things in their romantic relationships (or past-romantic one, in Marnie's case), and there's a lot to hash out here. I mean, Jessa's marriage only made it through four episodes."
Nathan: "It was always doomed, and all things considered, I'm surprised it made it this long"
Connie: "The fact that their relationship dissolved so completely after Thomas realized his parents didn't like Jessa…I couldn't make too much sense of that. He must have known that would happen? I mean, to not have invited his parents to his own wedding, he probably shouldn't have expected her to act any differently"
Nathan: "One conversation shouldn't ruin a marriage, but there wasn't much of a marriage there to begin with."
Connie "Their argument was so hateful."
Nathan: "Contempt is probably the worst emotion in a relationship."
Annie: "But it made me believe their marriage for the first time, because they knew each other's trigger points. That fight was amazing. AMAZING. Jessa's points about being the brightest thing in his life were SPOT on, and good for her for letting it be known."
Nathan: "That being with her was his only way to rebel was what set him off — that she was the most interesting thing about him."
Connie "I thought his fedora was pretty interesting."
Nathan: "Or his apparent love of prostitutes."
Connie "Touché. And hers was that she was a whore with a bad work ethic, which says more about him than her, IMO. It's so uncreative."
Nathan: "Right. He's clearly awful, and she clearly has awful judgement. Just look at their very first interaction. He threw a fit because she spilled wine on his rug and wouldn't have a threesome."
Connie "But did you guys think that this was her plan all along? To get money out of it?"
Nathan: "I doubt she's that calculating."
Connie "But when he offered her money to leave him (which was just so despicable), she accepted it so quickly!"
Nathan: "I think she saw that it was over and took the out, but I don't think she expected that. Also, don't you think she could have gotten more? $11,500 feels like play money for a guy like that. But she didn't care about the money."
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